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  1. 1
    Lata kamath 

    I have certain queries regarding my service career. I would like to submit details any have any answer from ur corner. I want the full postal address so that I can write to you.

  2. 2
    Jeetandra N Brahmi 

    Shall be grateful if a suitable reply to my querry is posted or sent by email. I retired on 31.07.2007. The pension was to be revised in new scale. Since my last increment fell on July 2007. Can my pension be fixed on the basis of last pay drawn in July,2007 or it will be calculated on the basis of average of 10 months pls. I loose approx some Rs.280/- on average basis. Can I represent for its fixation on basis of last pay drawn pls.????

  3. 3
    krishanlal 

    DISCRIMINATION IN FIXATION OF PENSION OF PRE-2006/Sep 2008 PENSIONERS.
    1 Article 14 strikes at arbitrariness in State action and ensures fairness and equality of treatment to all. It is attracted where equals are treated differently without any reasonable basis. The principle underlying the guarantee is that all persons similarly circumstanced shall be treated alike both in privileges conferred and liabilities imposed. Equal laws would have to be applied to all in the same situation and there should be no discrimination between one person and another if as regards the subject-matter of the legislation their position is substantially the same.
    2 It only means that all persons similarly circumstanced shall be treated alike both in privileges and liabilities imposed. Equal laws would have to be applied to all in the same situation, and there should be no discrimination between one person and another if as regards to the same subject matter.
    3 Article 14 forbids class division. The classification is founded on an intelligible differentia which distinguishes persons or things that are grouped together from those that are left out of the group and that differentia must have a rational nexus to the object sought to be achieved by the statute in question. The DP&T P&PW have divided the homogeneous class of present, past and future pensioners while issuing their memorandums for the purpose of fixation/revision of their pension consequent upon the 6th CPC report.
    4 The main and common grievance applicable to the existing pensioners is of the denial to the pre-2006 pensioners and some of the later period of the arbitrary introduction of words of limitation. There is nothing immutable and incontrovertible about the choosing of an event as an eligibility criterion subsequent to a specified date. If the event is certain but its occurrence at a point of time is considered wholly irrelevant and arbitrarily selected having an undesirable effect of dividing a homogeneous class and of introducing discrimination, the same can be easily severed and set aside by any court of the country. It is therefore just and proper that the words introducing the arbitrary fortuitous circumstances which are vulnerable as denying equality be severed and struck down.
    5 The point to note is ‘the benefit of revised scales of pay in the pay bands and grade pay is not limited to those who enter service subsequent to the date fixed for introducing revised scales but is extended to all those in service prior to that date’. Even in the case of the new retirees; the benefit of gratuity under the Payment of Gratuity Act, 1972, past service was taken into consideration. It is therefore emphasized that the scheme of liberalisation is not for new retirees benefit. Pension has correlation to average emoluments and the length of qualifying service and the liberalisation is not meant merely for the future retirees after a specific date.
    6 It is well known that the pension is a right and not a bounty or gratuitous benefit. The payment of pension does not depend upon the discretion of the Government alone but it is governed as per the constitution of the nation and by the rules framed by the parliament thus a government servant coming within the preview of those rules is entitled to claim the pension.
    7 The demand of “One Rank One Pension (OROP)” has been raised time and again by the defense personnel, though it may have to imply to all the central Govt. pensioners, may they have retired from defence forces or from any other central Govt. departments and/may they have already retired or future retirees. Unfortunately and regrettably, all the preceding CENTAL PAY COMMISSIONS (CPC) and the Governments have been shying away this legitimate demand. It is mentioned with anguish, agony, pain, grief and distress that it has been happening despite the fact that certain main political parties of the country like Congress Party and Bhartia Janta Party, included this demand in their election manifestoes. This subject was also included in the President’s address in the Parliament in 2004 thereby making OROP the declared policy of Government (not of any particular political party).
    8 Principally, the concept of OROP implies that, who have retired or will be retiring from the same rank/post with the same length of service, should always get same amount of pension, irrespective to their dates of retirements and total length of service provided to the nation. 6th pay commission has discussed this issue vide Para 5.1.46 & 5.1.47 (Pages 338 & 339) of its report. 6CPC and has held that “The Fifth CPC extended full parity between pre & post 1/1/1986 pensioners and a modified the parity between pre & post 1/1/1996 pensioners to bring them at par. In modified parity, it was provided that pension could, in no case, be less than 50% of the minimum of the corresponding Fifth CPC revised pay scale from which the pensioner had retired.” This principle was fully and strictly followed in letter and spirit by the Govt. and THE MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PG AND PENSIONS (DEPTT OF PENSION AND PENSIONER’S WELFARE) RESOLUTION NO. 38/37/08-P&PW (A).
    9 Nonetheless, consequent on 6th CPC report and the subject matter OROP is being taken up separately by the defense personnel. Here in, the subject matter is the case of application of pro rata of 33 years service, which was earlier applicable to all the central govt. employees, serving as well as retired ones; including defence forces personnel. Now, the 6th CPC have taken off this clause, but, the DP&T, P-PW have still incorporated for the pre 2006 pensioners and few others from a selected specific date in their OMs on their own without assigning any authority or reason.
    10 It is emphatically and vigorously point out that in accordance with the Article 14 and the principle of modified parity, the 6th CPC has recommended as under:-
    11 The 6th CPC report with beneficial amendments will be applicable w.e.f. 01 Jan 2006.
    12 “The full pension will be granted 50% of last pay drawn of the pay band of the post plus grade pay after rendering 20 years of service. The earlier clause for grant of full pension of 33 years is categorically and unconditionally removed.
    13 Further, in the case of existing pensioners, it is clearly mentioned in the 6th CPC Report that the revised pension will be calculated after multiplying the previous pension by a factor 2.26, but it will in no case, shall be lower than fifty percent of the sum of the minimum of the pay in the pay band and the grade pay thereon corresponding to the pre-revised pay scale from which the pensioner had retired”.
    14 In the Ministry of Personnel, PG and Pensions (Deptt of Pension and Pensioner’s welfare) Resolution No. 38/37/08-P&PW (A) dated 29 08 08, it is clearly stated under item No. 12 that the Govt. had accepted the contents of para 5.1.47 of 6th CPC Report with the modifications; in that fixation of pension shall be based on a multification factor of 1. 86 i.e. basic pension + Dearness Pension (wherever applicable) + dearness relief of 24 % as on 01 01 06 instead of 1. 74 some other similar points which are beneficial to the employees.
    15 The 6th CPC in para 5 1 .47 of its Report has said that “in order to maintain the existing modified parity between present and future retirees, it will be necessary to allow the same fitment benefit as is being recommended for the existing Government employees.” The 6th CPC concludes Para 5. 1. 47 by recommending that “The fixation as per this table will be subject to the provision that the revised pension, in no case, shall be lower than fifty percent of the sum of the minimum of the pay in the pay band and the grade pay thereon corresponding to the prerevised pay scale from which the pensioner had retired. To this extent, a change would need to be allowed from the fitment shown in the fitment table. The Govt. accepted this without any objection.
    16 Ministry of Finance, Deptt of Exp. (Implementation Cell), vide their O M No. 1/1/2008-IC dated 30 08 08 issued detailed instruction for implementation of 6th CPC Govt. accepted report, enclosing with it the Fitment Tables S – 1 to S – 34; (later in some cases favourable amended) allotting Revised Pay Band + Grade Pay for each Pre-revised Pay Scale. In column 1 of each table the minimum pre-revised basic pay is indicated and in second column Minimum Pay in the Pay Band, in third column Grade Pay and in last column Revised Basic Pay is indicated.
    17 Ministry of Personnel, PG & P, Deptt of Pension and Pensioner’s welfare, vide para 4.2 of Memorandum F No.38/37/08-P&PW (A) dated 2nd September 2008, issued instructions for the implementation of the Govt. ‘s decision for fixation of revised pension of pre-2006 pensioners/family pensioners. They have again repeated in the para “the Revised Pension in no case shall be lower than 50 % of the minimum of the pay in pay band plus the grade pay corresponding to the pre-revised pay scale from which the pensioner had retired.” In view of the point explained above, the Finance Ministry’s has made it amply clearly, visibly and undoubtedly emphasized that the full pension will be 50% of the last pay drawn plus grade pay. Thus, in all the case of present, future including all the existing pensioners of pre 2006 period; it will be fixed 50% of the minimum pay of the pay band of the post plus grade pay of the post. As such there is no deference in either case. Here, the pension fixation authority has to ascertain the old pay scale of a pensioner to fix/revise his pension in the corresponding revised pay band and grade pay. Based on it, his pension is to be re-fixed accordingly.
    18 However, it was further added in the above office memorandum No: 38/37/08-P&PW(A) dated 2.9.2008 Government Servants who retired during 1.1.2006 to 1.9.08 after completion of 33 years of qualifying service will be eligible for full pension and the pension of those Government Servants who retired before 2.9.08 with qualifying service of less than 33 years will continue to be proportionate to the full pension based on their actual qualifying service.
    19 It may be noted that hereafter the application of Pro rata of 33 years has nothing to do in any case for fixation of pension of the existing pensioners, hence not required to be applied in any one’s case. In all the cases, henceforth, the pension is to be fixed based on 2o years of service rendered. However, if pension is granted in the cases where service rendered is less than 20 years, in such cases, the pro rata of 20 years is to be applied since the condition of grant of full pension is 20 years; especially, as the clause of 33 years is especially and principally removed by the 6th CPC.
    20 We all know and elaborated above in detail that as per 6CPC recommendations for pension benefits which were implemented by the Government, CG employees who have completed the qualifying service of 20 years will be eligible for full pension (viz., 50 % of last pay drawn). However, the Government gave effect to this order only from 2.9.2008 and those who retired before 2.9.2008, completion of 33 years of service is mandatory for getting full pension.
    21 Save for, in spite of such a clear position, the DP&T, overlooking and ignoring the contents of 6th CPC and resolution of the Govt, it sad to point out that the DP&T have still incorporated the clause of pro rata of 33 years for fixation of pension in the cases of the existing pre-2006 pensioners which is utterly, and absolutely discriminatory, biased, prejudiced, bigoted and inequitable. They seem to have done it without obtaining clarification from the 6th CPC or Cabinet or Central Govt. Even if they have obtained approval of the Govt., they could have done it by misleading, in disingenuous manners, deceptively and deceivingly. In view of this fact it seems the DP&T P&PW have done it with an ulterior, inexplicable, puzzling, baffling and mysterious motive, they will not come within the preview of this order.
    22 It is pertinent to highlight the fact that the Constitution Bench of Honorable Supreme Court of India gave decision in case of D S Nakra and others Verses Union of India (1983) 1 SCC 305 . One of the questions posed in the case was whether a class of Pensioners could be divided for the purpose of entitlement and payment of pension into those who retired by certain date and those who retired thereafter. The Constitution Bench held that such division being both arbitrary and unprincipled; the classification did not stand the test of Article 14. The argument that the cut off date had to be fixed in view of the limited financial resources available to cover up additional expenses to be incurred on account of revision of pay scale was not accepted by the Constitution Bench of the honorable Supreme Court. This exactly applies to the case of pre-2006 and post 2006 Pensioners. In case it is still done by the DP&T, P&PW, it will be a case of violation of Article 14 of Constitution of India as well as against the ruling of Constitution Bench of honorable Supreme Court of India cited above.
    23 Another similar case: The Honorable Supreme Court of India in Civil Appeal No. 5566 of 2006 vide Special Leave Petition (Civil) No. 12357 of 2006, Union of India and others Appellants Vs. SPS Vains (Retd.) and other Respondents; gave its another historical Judgment on 09 09 08, involving the similar matter of equality wherein the honorable Supreme Court fully agreed with the decision given by Constitution Bench of Honorable Supreme Court of India in D S Nakra case.
    24 It is therefore once again emphasized that the division of Pensioners in two groups namely pre – 2006/Sep 2009 pensioners and post – 01 Sep 2009 pensioners, with a cut off date of 01 09 06, is violative of Article 14 of Constitution of India and against the above cited ruling of the honorable Supreme Court of India.
    25 But in spite of all what has been brought out above, the MINISTRY OF PERSONNEL, PG AND PENSIONS (DEPTT OF PENSION AND PENSIONER’S WELFARE) RESOLUTION NO. 38/37/08-P&PW (A), Pension have issued orders contrary to Art. 14 and Apex court judgement. This has defeated the very concept of 6th CPC and Govt resolution, according to which, the minimum pension is now to be reduced applying pro-rata of 33 years in the cases where the pensioner had put in less than 33 years service. It is thus utterly, absolutely, out-rightly, and wholly overlooking and neglecting the contents of CPC report, and Govt., resolution, according to which pension is to be fixed after 20 years 50% of last pay drawn for the future retirees after Jan 2006 and 50% of minimum of the pay band plus grade pay. This seems to have been done by them considering as if there themselves are the Govt. of India and there is no one above them. Also, they seem to have done it intentionally, considering that they will never be affected of such a clause, 20 years clause of the 6th CPC will remain operative/applicable for them. If 33 years clause was to be made applicable by them, it should have been made applicable for future retirees as well even after the ensuing/subsequent pay commission reports. It is considered sadistic decision of the DP&T, P-PW by the entire nation/public, whosoever reads this clause.
    26 It is once again re-iterated that the condition of 33 years service is neither mentioned anywhere in the 6CPC neither report nor it is in Government Resolution. No policy on common matters can be framed without any reason/logic. It is rather not clear and known as to on what basis and with whose consent this condition has been incorporated while changing the original orders. Obviously, the concept of 6th CPC and Govt. resolution has been completely ignored by the implementing authorities.
    27 In this regard it is worth to discuss the rulings of the Hon’ble Supreme Court, which enjoy the status of LAW OF THE LAND. 6th Pay Commission has referred to the famous judgment in the case of D.S. Nakra Vs Union of India (AIR 1983, SC 130) vide Para 5.1.3 of its report. This Judgment pronounced by a Constitution Bench of Supreme Court is available at http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/qrydisp.aspx for the benefit of all who want to read it. The case dates back to 70s when the Government had introduced Liberalized Pension Scheme. Earlier pension was calculated based on the average salary of last 36 months. Under Liberalized Pension Scheme, the provisions were changed to calculate the pension based on the average salary of last 10 months. The case was filed by one retired civil officer (subject to Central Civil Pension Rules 1972) and one retired defense officer (subject to Army Pension Regulations) and the third petitioner was a Registered Society. Only the following extracts of this judgment will clarify the LAW OF THE LAND:
    28 “Proceeding further, this Court observed that where all relevant considerations are the same, persons holding identical posts may not be treated differently in the matter of their pay merely because they belong to different departments. If that can’t be done when they are in service, can that be done during their retirement? Expanding this principle, one can confidently say that if pensioners form a class, their computation cannot be by different formula affording unequal treatment solely on the ground that some retired earlier and some retired later.”
    29 “All pensioners whenever they retired would be covered by the liberalised pension scheme, because the scheme is a scheme for payment of pension to a pensioner governed by 1972 Rules. The date of retirement is irrelevant. But the revised scheme would be operative from the date mentioned in the scheme and would bring under its umbrella all existing pensioners and those who retired subsequent to that date. In case of pensioners who retired prior to the specified date, their pension would be computed afresh” Another recent Judgment pronounced by Hon’ble Supreme Court on 9th September 2008 is available at http://judis.nic.in/supremecourt/qrydisp.aspx for the information authorities and others. This case was originally filed by some Retired Major Generals of the Army with regard to fixation of their pension after implementation of 5th Pay Commission. Government of India filed an appeal in the Supreme Court against the judgment of Punjab High Court, (Civil Appeal No. 5566 of 2008, Special Leave Petition (Civil) No. 12357 of 2006 Union of India vs. SPS Vains (Retd.) and others). In this case Hon’ble Supreme Court has directed as under:
    30 “We, accordingly, dismiss the appeal and modify the order of the High Court by directing that the pay of all pensioners in the rank of Major General and its equivalent rank in the two other wings of the Defence Services be notionally fixed at the rate given to similar officers of the same rank after the revision of pay scales with effect from 1.1.1996, and, thereafter, to compute their pensionary benefits on such basis”.
    31 It is abundantly clear from the above extracts that the Hon’ble Supreme Court has already accepted the principle of equality and this enjoys the status of the LAW OF THE LAND. It may be noted from the foregoing that the implementing officials of 6th CPC have not followed the contents of 6th CPC and Govt. resolution while issuing various clarifications.
    32 Deprival of due and that too justified due of Revised Pension has created gloom and obscurity as well as a great resentment, antipathy and umbrage amongst all the pre-2006 retirees, since they are helpless due to their old age and financial constraints. I may not hesitate to accept that it may not be possible for the effected pensioners, especially due to financial constraints, all of them spread in far flung areas in the country and in their advanced age to approach Courts of Law to seek justice. Please do have mercy on them. They feel most cheated, disgusted and frustrated, as though the 6th CPC had done justice with the pre-2006 retirees, which was accepted by the Govt. with the approved of the Union Cabinet with favorable amendments, but, subsequent modifications and amendments issued under Ministry of Personnel, PG & Pension, and Deptt. Of Pension and Pensioner’s welfare vide various OMs., pertaining to fixation of all the pre-2006 Pensioners has shattered their hope and aspirations beyond imagination.
    33 There being a great injustice, prejudice and discrimination to the pensioners; an earnest request is made to all the politicians, MPs, Ministers, Govt. servants, entire public of the nation, luminaries, news papers, media/electronic media and readers, the pension associations of all the departments of the country as well as all the pre-2006 pensioners and their well-wishers to make public this issue so that our Political Leaders are made aware of it, who can take some urgent remedial action in the matter.
    34 In view of the situation explained above, all the concerned authorities are requested to please do look into this matter without any prejudice, chauvinism, narrow-mindedness, discrimination and insularity to initiate suitable action and amendment to remove the unwarranted, gratuitous, uncalled-for, unjustifiable and unsubstantiated pro rata clause of 33 years which has been incorporated intentionally or un-intestinally. Most urgent or as early as possible of the concerned authorities is solicited please.
    35 I whole heartedly and sincerely convey my personal and special thanks to all the politicians, MPs, Ministers, Govt. servants, entire public of the nation, luminaries, news papers, media/electronic media and readers, the pension associations of all the departments of the country as well as all the pre-2006 pensioners and their families to co-operate and assist with the old pensioners and convince/ask the concerned authorities to do the needful in the matter most urgently please.
    Yours Sincerely,
    Col. (retd). K L Jaspal.
    Email address: krishanlaljaspal@yahoo.co.in

  4. 4
    Dr. T. R. Baggi 

    Dear Sir,

    All the pre 2006 pensioners should be thankful to Col (retd.) K. L. Jaspal who has been kind enough to prepare such a comprehensive note covering all the issues and bringing the point clearly and cojently. We all should appreciate his efforts. We sincerely hope that department of Personnel, PG and P (Dept. of Pension & Pensioner’s Welfare), Govt. of India looks into this issue and sees that the pre 2006 pensioners all over the country get the justice in this matter. I hope and trust that Col (retd.) K. L. Jaspal would follow this issue and bring it to its logical conclusion. We wish him all the best.

    Thanh you,
    Yours faithfully,
    T. R. Baggi
    Yours sincerely’

  5. 5
    Hardeep Singh 

    Sir,

    I worked for 9 years 10 months in Autonomous body under Punjab Governemt. The job was pensionable.

    In 2009, i got relived from the institution and joined service at another Autonomous body under Govt. of India, where i am not covered under pensionery benefit in view of having joined after 1.1.2004.

    CAn any body guide me regarding my entitlements like gratuaity/leave encashment admissble fom previous employer.

    Hardeep

  6. 6
    S.Srirama Desikan 

    I salute Col.Jaspal for his comprehensive analysis of the discrimination meted out to one group of pensioners by the arbitrary judgement of some officers of DP & PW which has resulted in huge violation of the spirit of the recommendation of the commission and in utter disrespect to the law of the land. i hope good sense will prevail in the GOI in general and DO P & PW in particular to take a positive decision and pass early orders that would benefit people like me who sail in the same boat.

  7. 7
    Raj 

    Sir, I tried to get Gconnect Account with username Raj1966 and with passoword but failed everytime. So I am putting my qauestion on MACP here. Any expert can reply :-

    Dear Sir,

    I was appointed as Clerk in 1989 in the pay scale of Rs. 950-1500/- in an Accounts Department of Central Govt. After passing first part of my departmental examination in 1994 I was promoted as Auditor in the pre-revised scale of Rs. 1200-2040/- w.e.f. Oct. 1994. Further after passing my second and final part of departmental exams I was promoted as Section Officer w.e.f. March 1998 in the scale of Rs. 5500-9000/- (which subsequently merged with scale of AAO in 6th RPR with grade pay of 4800/- ).

    Presently I am serving as AAO with grade pay of Rs. 4800/- and treated to in same scale w.e.f. March 1998 (being merger of posts of Section officer and AAO ).

    Sir my department refused to give me 3rd ACP in G.P. of Rs. 5400/- (next high in hierarchy) on the ground that there was another post in the department of Senior Auditor in the scale of Rs. 1400-2600/- in between the posts of Auditor and Section Officer. It is pertinent to mention here that I was never promoted as Senior Auditor or given benefit of scale of Senior Auditor . But my higher office thinks that since there was another post of Senior Auditor in between so it is understood that I have taken the benefit of 2nd Promotion as Senior Auditor automatically.

    From above it is quite clear that I got only Two promotions ( 1st as Auditor and 2nd as Section officer or say AAO) by virtue of passing departmental examination and I never got any in my Service till date.

    In view of foregoing please clarify whether I am entitled for 3rd ACP in the G.P. of Rs. 5400/- or not. If not, under which Govt. order or clarification.

    Request :- If possible, please send your reply at my e-mail ID : raj4lv@yahoo.co.in

  8. 8
    spkar 

    Hi raj, I have got a similar dilemma. In aCentral Govt. deptt. I was appointed as Stenographer in 1972 and got first promotion by selection in 1978 and subsequently the next higher promotional post in 1993 and since then, am, serving in the same post. Wbile my directly juniors of 1979 onwards who are similarly promoted to my present post, have been granted 2 ACPs and now also got MACP with the grade pay of Rs.6600/- w.e.f. 1.9.2008 while I am still kept in the grade pay of Rs.5400/- w.e.f.1.9.2008. As per MACP for every ten years at least three promotions or higher scales are to be given and if so, I am to be given the higher grade pay of Rs.6600/- or even under ACPof course for every 12 years,at least 3 promotions or scales, now grades are to be given. Am I right? If so, am I entitled for 3rd financial upgradation after my completing 30 years of service counting from 1972, as I did not get 3 promotions, but only two. Alongwith copy of any authenticated reply to your querry, since I am also similarly place(though slightly different), will you please inform me to my email pvati@yahoo.com urgently.

  9. 9
    Vinay 

    Dear Hardeep Singh
    Your case is covered by GOI, Dept of Pension & Pensioners Welfare’s OM dated 28 Oct 2009 under which mobility between State/Central Govt & Autonomous bodies has been restored. In other words, those employees who originally entered State Govt Or State Autonomous Bodies service prior to 31.12.2003 and were covered by pension scheme similar to CCS(Pension) Rules, 1972 will be allowed to remain in old pension scheme. The above order is available on the concerned Ministry/Dept’s website

  10. 10
    sram 

    I am working in one of the Army Medical Unit as UDC. I am entrusted with the entire administrative tasks assisted by one erstwhile Gp `D’ staff. These erstwhile Gp `D’ staff is helping me in mail entry/sorting and dispatching only and he is having a little knowledge of English. My boss is an Army doctor and the entire responsibility of personal management of erstwhile Gp `D’ staff ,administrative tasks of other Gp `C’ staff and officer`s correspondences and their documentation lies on me. Since I am the sole administrative staff, I have to perform the tasks of Accounts management/book keeping both public and unit funds, cashbook maintenance,, record management, service book maintenance, preparation and submission of pay bills/claiming other pay related claims, TADA Claims, Stores Management etc and general routine office correspondences.
    My responsibilities are enormous, it is regretted to inform you that Govt has not recognized our services and placed in the Grade pay of Rs.1900 for LDCs and Rs.2400/- for UDCs. My case is not an isolated one. There are many hundreds of LDCs/UDCs in the small units of Army itself. We are bearing the maximum responsibilities and are now equated with the Gp `D’ employees. Earlier I had a little respect from the Gp `D’ employees of my office. After the implementation of 6th CPC and the MACPS even that is also lost. My assistant is now demanding table and chair better than me to do his work. I can understand the Government`s intention is to bring equality in the pay structure of Government employees and to reduce the disparity between high and low grade as practiced in the developed nations. It is a welcoming trend, but when they are trying to satisfy the up-liftments of other categories without any functional disturbances why, LDCs/UDC is deprived from such upgradations. I could recollect news which came in one of the leading news paper that the finance commission has agreed higher scales for LDCs/UDCs at par with assistants but the finance ministry has turned down the proposal stating that it entails huge financial implications to the Government exchequer. From the foregoing now I have a doubt in my mind that the Government has not recognized us Indian citizens for whom Fundamental rights and Directive principles of the state policy is not applicable.

  11. 11
    RS Sahni 

    Dear S Ram,
    What interests me more is your name which has very little difference from my own, in which I place Ram before my S. I respectfully advise you to compare your position with that of Gp X corporal in Indian Air Force for which the Basic pay has been as follows:

    Corporal Gr. Pay UDC Gr. Pay Sergeant Gr. Pay
    3rd CPC Rs. 350 <Rs 300 Rs. 560
    4th CPC Rs. 1460 Rs. 1200 Rs. 1640
    5th CPC Rs. 4250 Rs. 3600 Rs. 5000
    6th CPC Rs. 5200 Rs.2400 Rs. 5200 Rs. 2400 Rs. 5200 2800

    If I correctly remember, after 4th CPC the starting basic pay of UDC was Rs. 1200 which was raised to Rs. 3600 after 5th CPC. Since decisions on fixation of salaries is taken by civilian IAS officers, you have been benefiting progressively in each pay commission whereas, the benefits to the Diploma Stream (Gp-X) have always been regressive. You should be thankful to them.

    Please make comparisons and satisfy yourself. Attendance to the maintenance of aircraft/missiles, maintenance of the records & manpower, signing the log books to bear all responsibilities in case of any unfortunate mishap and simultaneously attending all the military drills & duties are much more difficult and extracting than sitting and enjoying in AC or fan.

    Regards.

    RS Sahni
    JWO (ex)

  12. 12
    Dr Sunil Kumar 

    Sir,
    I would like to know the clarifications on fixation of Pay as per 6th CPC. I am a teacher and part-B has been implemented for pay fixation. On 1-1-2006 my basic pay was 13250/- in the pre revised pay scale Rs 10000-15200/-. I have given the grade pay Rs 7600/- (pay band-3). Rs 15600-39100/-
    When my pay was fixed in the office, they simply took the basic pay drawn on 1-1-2006 and multiply by 1.86 + GP 7600/- which comes to 24650/- + 7600/- which I seems that my pay has not been fixed as per 6th CPC recommendations.
    As I understand that my pay is to be fixed in the pay scale 12000 – 16500/- instead of Rs 10000-15200 as GP 7600 is applicable in the said pay scale first instead of what I was getting at that time.
    Kindly give clarifications and fix my pay as I understand please. Thanks

  13. 13
    cheeha 

    Sir, I am Gr.II steno working in Def A/cs Dept.
    in the GP of 4200. Recently based on DOPT clarification, our dept has redesignated Steno Gr.II and Gr.I as Steno Gr.I in PB 2 with GP 4200.

    As per DOPT reply to parliament question in May, 2010, at par with CSSS, subordinate offices can get GP of 4800 to Private Secretaries.
    In my opinion, PS of CSSS are getting 4800 GP, but PS of Sub offices are getting GP 4600 only. I think there is a disparity.
    Please comment

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