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i m a sr um needed to join your site posted in secl at johilla area.
wants to clearefy the promotion policy.
proposed pay structure
AS FAR AS REVISED PAY STRUCTURE IS CONCERNED ,THE CASES OF THE JUNIOR LEVEL EXECUTIVES FROM E1 TO E3 LEVEL ARE COMPLETELY IGNORED BY ALL REASONABLE AND DEMOCRATIC NORMS IN A PUBLIC SECTOR UNDERTAKING EVEN AFTER 60 YEARS OF INDEPENDENCE.
In new pay scale, the stagnation increaments (3 nos.) will be given in alternate years,ie one increament in two years, this is a total injustice to the stagnated employees. The stagnation increament should be given every year as in the existing pay scale, if it is not to be continued as in the CMOAI demand.
Will the activities of CMOAI go beyond the ares of pay and parks.
Why there is no transparent and systematic transfer policy after so many years of this Public Sector Organisation?
Why GMS and AFMS get transfer after three four years?
Why the same thing do not happen in case of junior level executives?
Can anybody answer?
Please tell me how a junior became senior in this industry and what step you suggest to maintain dignity of senior.
I want to know why executes in E3 grade are not given paralal placement in E4 grade as given
to higher grades like E4 E5 etc.
Why the executives posted in Areas are not given a rotational chance to work at company Hq? Why you need a backing only to get it? Can CMOAI explain this?
There is no clear mention about the pay fixation of executives who got promoted from non executive cadre on or after 1-1-2007. Basic pay of executives who got promoted from non executive cadre in august 2007 are different in different subsidiaries . 21854.54 in mcl , 21860 in Secl , 21855 in NEC , 26427 in bccl and ncl . Can anyone answer ?
Please do not assume anything on your own or get preoccupied in your mind .
why the cmoai executive body members are not loyal towards junior level executives always they are thinking of the benefits for senior level executives.As per the manpower is concerned junior level executive from E1 to E4 are less in nos.i am giving the example of E2 executives they are always the sufferer one.so please awake and kindly look towards us also because we are also a part of your company.
j. d.rao ,j&k area,secl.
why cmoai executive body members neglect those are promoted from nonexecutive to executive at the of time 2007 for gaurentee benfit fitment in new executive pay scale.the new executive pay scale signed on 7/05/2009.we are alearedy worked on old executive pay scale upto31/05/2009. so please awake and kindly look towards us ,because we are also epart of yout cmoai company.
1. The attitude of CMOAI towards NE Region is very much similar to that of the politicians of so called mainland India! The exdcutives transferred to Assam Coalfields from other coalfields can keep their residences for 3 yrs whereas executives transferred to other coalfields from Assam can not! Do you know that the original inhabitants of NE region dislike staying in other regions of India? 2. Some executives use company vehicles and others do not, but both are drawing equal perks & allowances(43.5 %). Dont you think that executives using company vehicles should get at least 5% less perks & allowances?
Executives of exploration department posted in various camps in different RIs of CMPDI are being treated step motherly.All the financial benefits given earlier to compensate their posting in remote areas devoid of even bare minimum basic facilities have been withdrawn without the approval of competent authorities . the implementing heads are obeying only verbal orders in many cases like field DA, incentives etc. No written orders have been sent to any executive.Then the question is why one should be motivated and how under these circumstance they may work when the govt. bodies are thinking/ implementing scheme to attract officers like doctor etc. to motivate to go to villages.So these matter should be taken whole heartedly to look into the matter important , because the exploration is the back bone of the production companies as a whole.
1.Some executives use company vehicles and others do not, but both are drawing equal perks & allowances(43.5 %). Dont you think that executives using company vehicles should get at least 5% less perks & allowances.
2.Some executives are trying for their request transfer from one subsidiary to another stating their guanine problems but no action are being taken in spite of several request.
The upgradation of executives of E3 and E4 grade those who were in those grades as on 1.1.2007 has been known to have been published, but it is still not available in cmoai site as on 4.2.2010.
what is the use of maintaining the website if exexcutives are not been aware of the current facts in time ?
Why in TA/DA rules the rate of mileage is differentiate E-1 to E-4 = Rs. 5 per Km and from E-5 onwards it is Rs 7.5 per Km. It means the mileage ( Car Average ) of executive E-1 to E-4 is better then the Car average of executive E-5 onwards ? Why So ?
SINCE LAST SIX YEARS ASST.SURVEY OFFICERS WERE IN THE SAME GRADE E-1 (FROM 16.2.2004) ONLY 13 OUT OF 63 WERE PROMOTED ON 15.2.10.WHEN THEY WILL BE PROMOTED.WILL CMOAI REACT PROMPTLY.
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Is there any benifit, to cil for transfering executives mainly after promotions ?I have personally felt aged
officers (+52 years) are worried about their futures only,affecting individual performance to the co.Will competent authority of CMOAI take up this burning issue to higher mngmnt.seriously?
CMOAI has completely lost its recognition in the recent days and i firmly believe that it will be buried in the coal mines in days to come.Most of the representatives join cmoai for their personal promotion /development.They have no hold in the CIL managegement and there are multiple faction within the body itself.Its hightime we should keep away the differences and unite…..
hi, when arrears of our last fixation will be given . what about prp.
plz write
Respected CMOAI office bearers
All the E1, E2 officers of entire coal industry are unhappy due to new E3 scale.
is there any sencire efforts from you to help them. If so please let us know at what stage and how.
P.Balaram J.E Singareni
Let us form another association consisting of only field people and only first generation execxutive.
Dear Friends,
Presently i sm working as Med Supdt,Singareni colliries Manuguru,Khammam(dt),Andhrapradesh.
I am having some doubts regarding payrevision towards Doctors.
1. In SCCL, NPA is not calculated in areares as it is treated as perk.
2. During payment of arears also Doctors getting less than junior grades.
i request any body please clarify the implementation details of coal india regarding pay revision & arears to Doctors.
If any thing is there please mail to me:p.rameshbabu1@scclmines.com
Thank you
Dr.P.Ramesh babu
I want a copy of the below mentioned letter(including annexures ) ref. No.C-5A(iii)/52053/248 Dated.12.5.1987
Sub :- Revised staffing pattern / promotional
Avenues for Mines Survey Personnel
I request u all, to find the way to get the above said letter. please inform me. my mobile no: 09425537023 or nawalkishorebaghel@yahoo.com.
thank u very much.
Why till date we have not promoted to the post of Survey Officer E2 grade from Asst. Survey Officer E1 grade since last 7(Seven) years.CMOAI is slipping like KUMBHAKARNA.Please awake very soon to see the above matter other wise we the people( 50 nos).will resigned from CMOAI.
What is the status of revised ltc/lltc rules, firm seniority list of E4 to E7 grade.
tha company treated step mother behavior towards those who are promoted from non- executive to executive by not giving 30% fit ment benifit, can CMOAI takan any in this regard? The total loss is around 50lakhs during whole service, junior level officer completely demoralised
Iwas promoted to E4 in September-2007. what will be my grade/designation as on date ? Itis not understood anywhere.
copy of office order in respect of transfer policy of CIL executive are required .
thanks
uvar
where we can get all RTI questions & answers made by COALINDIA to the applicant .why cil is silent about its personnel policy
cmoai-a bunch of ………self sufficient peoples
Dear Badhai,
As per the previous guidelines formula is as below.
non-executive last month notional salary(i.e. basic+da+sda+10%bonus)+one increment of non-executive grade<=executive basic+da(i.e. executive notional salary). For further clearafication please contact at soniforeman@yahoo.co.in
For kind attention of CMOAI office bearers in letter no. CIL/C-5A(vi)/005/35/1210 dated 02/07-05-2009 regarding pay revision of executives in the para (10) (ii) (b) for 3% charge allowance why Labour Welfare Officer(Statutory Post) is not mentioned.
Coal India has revised gradation & rank of all its executives and subsiadiary co more than month back .it is surprising that ECL & bccl are yet to change the rank & designation of their executive for unknown reasons as they is no additional cost involved in modification of the Ranks & designation
what happened to cmoai website. since last several weeks, it is not opening. what is news of prp? where is the delay? do we get it in 2010-11 or not?
No body from cmoai is responding to all the above
comments/suggsions.Every body is in doubt whether cmoai is existing or not? I think cmoai now be comes a payslip association.After getting payslip one can recalls cmoai.Cmoai failed miserably to protect junior level executives.In last pay fixtation all executives are up graded to next higher grade except E1 & E2 executives as on 1.1.07. Till now 50 executives of survey disciplane & 15 executives of E&M deptt. are lying in E1 grade since last six & half years.Cmoai is silent about new TA/DA rule.E1 to E3 executives will get Rs 8/per km where as others will get Rs 12.It shows that E1&E2 officers get more milege with their vehicles as comperision to others.
Whether till date nothing has been finalised about PRP or not been informed to executives. Every morning we use to listen different rumour. Hope CMOAI should atleast convey clearly about the facts.
Whether till date nothing has been finalised about PRP or not been informed to executives. Every morning we use to listen different rumour. Hope CMOAI should atleast convey clearly about the facts. If it has been finalised then please send me a copy of the modality of calculation as well as approx date of payment.
i am abit confused with the promotion policy being followed for medical officers (gdmo) & specialists in coal india. pl if any one from any corner can kindly reply for this mail as soon as possible. pl mail me with the details.
What’s ailing our CMOAI!? it has become a redundant and defunct set up. the least that one expects it do is to upadte its web site. look! some old junk letter of inconsequence is even now being flashed as new! new! its alright if cmoai is a toothless out fit it. It can atlest disseminate some useful and correct information affecting the executives. Hope office bearers of some worth would get this and do something about it. good luck
Transfer of sensitive dept. in every three years is common in every subsidary or in its only limited, if so why the order has not been issued in April & relesed beofore may, transfer & release in mid of academic year become hectic for school admission and shifting, CMOAI should think of it.
doctors’promotion fromE-6 to E-7 due 11 years cmoai helpless now deductions of DA as npa not part of basic what cmoai willdo now can doctors hope something from this cmoai or look elsewhere?
CMOAI APEX SHOULD CONSIDER DOCTORS’DA DEDUCTION ISSUE AS THE TOPMOST AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION ON 4TH SEPT.&TAKE UP THIS MATTER TO MANAGEMENT URGENTLY
To
The Director personnel
Coal India Limited (A Maharatna company)
Subject: requesting for notional seniority,
R/Sir,
I would like to draw your kind attention that promotion order of the diploma holders was circulated by company in the month of December 2010 in first phase, in which my name was absent.Again second list of promotion order of the diploma holders was circulated in the last week of December 2010 in second phase in which my name was again absent.After one and half month, third list of promotion order of the diploma holder was circulated As per vide letter no CIL: C50254:Dip.Holder: Excv::515 dated 2nd /9th FEB2011 and I got promotion. But company did not give me notional seniority from 22nd December.
Due to this reason my batch mates and juniors have become seniors. My batch mates are drawing Rs.1500 per month more basic than me.
It is heartbreak that company was ignored my promotion in first phase and gave me mental apprehension and now I am in great financial loss only due to ignorance of CIL.
There fore I request you Sir, kindly grant me notional seniority from 22Dec 2010.
Thanking you
Yours faithfully Place: Kurasia Colliery
Date: 26.09.2011
Rajesh Kumar Mishra
Subordinate Engineer (Excv)
UM no. 90265943
Date of entry in E1: 16 Feb 2011
SECL CHIRIMIRI AREA
Kurasia Colliery (Excv) Bio-Data Rajesh Kumar Mishra S/O Sri Bhagirathi Mishra
NEIS NO: 92280299
Dt.of appt: 13.05.1988 as a Foreman trainee in grade‘B’
Dt.of Promotion in grade A: 13.05.1991 as a Foreman Incharge (Excv)
Dt.of Promotion in grade A1: 23.07.2005
Place of Posting : Kurasia Colliery (Excv) SECLChirimiri Area
Copy to
1. C.M.D S.E.C.L
2. D.P S.E.C.L
3. C.G.M Chirimiri Area
4. CMOAI Central committee
5. CMOAI SECL Zone
6. CMOAI Chirimiri Area
I had retired from service on superannuation on 1.9.2009.I am getting pension in old scale and this is not revised.Most of retired executives who retired from service are not getting revised pension.We are being stupefied by Area office and by colliery time and again.Request To take up the this matter with authority so that we can get relief from harassment as well as get our dues in this crisis point of inflation. I retired from Salanpur Area , Barmondia (A)Colliery ECL.
what’s happening in the cmoai
why promotional increment not being given to recent upgreaded in E-1
I, want to know about promotion of executives from E6 to E7 & about the PRP.
What is the outcome of board meeting held on 12/11/2011 regarding promotion & PRP
WHA T ABOUT PROMOTIONS OF DOCTORS E6 TO E7? MINING PROMOTIONS DONE &DOCTORS’PROMOTIONS FORGOTTEN WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARD IS THERE ENOUGH REASONS TO BE A CMOAI MEMBER ANY MORE?
No body is discussing about promotion of junior level executives as if they are not part of cmoai.Every one is bothering for promotion of E6 to E7. What about Executives of E1, E2 & E3.In last pay revision(1.1.2007) all were upgraded to next higher grade except E1 & E2.In survey disciplane there are 50 executives suffering in E1 grade since last 8 years in a plea that no vacency is there in E2.How vacencies are created in case of higher grade executives.Even E1 executives are not elegible for flight.They get less (8 rupees) as compered to others(12.00) per Km while on tour.This is the time to think & act seriously by CMOAI before they walkout from CMOAI.
Respected cmoai President/Gen.sec.
It is panic to say that cmoai could not realize the matter of subordinate engineer E1 of who got upgradation in third list in the month of FEB2011 and became junior than their batchmates and their juniors also became seniors and are drawing more basic.is it panic or not? just it has to be realize it.last time I have posted my views to cmoai.matter was raised before cmoai during agitational program at bilaspur HdQtr to backup the carrier growth in main stream line.but ,unfortunately it is still pending, can I hope it will be better ?
Please send me a copy of seniority list of E-5 to E-7 in coalindia
Please send me a copy of seniority list of E-5/6 in E&M cadre